who are these christians that support this war?... or at least this understanding of it?...

i was reading a quote from ann coulter, author of How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)... open it up and...

"This is a religious war, not against Islam but for Christianity, for a Christian nation," Coulter said. "When this nation was founded, there was nothing like it. Our founders said there is a God and we are all equal before God. The ideal of equality and tolerance is like nothing that has ever existed in the world before. That, too, is a Christian value. The concept of equality, especially when it comes to gender equality, was not invented by Gloria Steinem -- it was invented by Jesus Christ. As long as people look long enough, they will always come to Christianity."

check out this next quote...

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

the above was is a quote from this here and here... and here is more...

can you see the irony here?... that christianity has ideals of tolerance and equality, but we cannot tolerate or put on a equal playing field those who do not share our ideals!... how messed up is that!...

it's a way of short-circuiting things that is so western... we think that every thing should happen quickly and with force... empire-building... many people view christianity the same way... empire-building that is... but it ends up not as god's empire, but an individual's empire... here is an old post of mine on the inefficiency of god...

i mean how can this be spoken of a person (jesus) who said to turn the other cheek, to consider yourself blessed when you are persecuted, to walk the extra mile?... how can people reconcile war to the teachings and life of christ?...

anyways, hasn't the usa spent a great deal of effort in these last decades encouraging peace and anti-retaliation to other nations (such as israel)?... what makes the usa great is our ability to inspire other countries by our way of life... and sometimes its not all that inspiring... and that is to be expected... but 'standing up democracies' as cheney says, is no way of implementing goodness throughout the rest of the world...

jesus was very clear when he spoke to peter who was taking action against the roman guard, saying that the kingdom of god will not be advanced by force, particularly political force!...

i have heard christians speak of this war being a continuation of the wars of the old testament, tearing down 'false gods' and implementing the rule of god... absurdity!... first, the us is not israel... second, while i don't completely understand the genocidal nature of the hebrew crusades, i feel that jesus was quite clear in his teachings against war... or am i off-base here?...

i am tired of being represented by a conservative majority of christians who support such statements as above... i am so grieved by such statements...

wait a minute, am i being intolerant of intolerant people who claim to be promoting this virture of tolerance by take-over?...